Dave is still living the dream on a beach… fear not, Jack and Josie return! On this edition of Thursday’s show, Dave chats to Katie Mills – Founder of State Zero Labs, the world's first dedicated Blockchain Lab for Startups. The ensuing discussion is then all around the history and hype of Blockchain and the importance of people truly understanding the market they embark in. We also discuss Katie’s point around the ongoing issues around the segregation of ‘women in tech’ at events.